Pepin Orsini vision

Pepin Orsini vision

With the Pepin Orsini dynasty the Franco-Roman order of history was set, which did not go unchallenged. Not only Byzantium firmly resisted, but perhaps underestimated, the vision of the Pepins. Also in the West not only the Lombardi viewed the attempts with great scepticism. Also the Bataves in the North were not charmed and resisted the attempts at curbing the freedoms of the Northern Peoples. In fact the Pepins threw Western Europe into a long frenzy of wars, which lasted to our day and age. 

We have to be somewhat sceptical about the missionary efforts of the new Franco Roman kingdom, claiming to have 'christianized' Western Europe. Christianity was around a lot longer, just not in the intolerant version as promoted by the Pepins and their Roman church. 

Moreover the Monastery became an important educational and military cell as initiated by Carloman, the first Pope of the new Roman Church. For this to be successful the ties with the Byzantine imperial church had to be cut and the West had to be isolated from the rest of the empire and the world, which is indeed what happened. 


We make a serious mistake if we assume that the Moors in Charles Martel's day were as religion comparable with modern Islam as even the New Roman Church established by the Pepins was far from comparable with what is now Roman Catholicism. 

When Charlemagne wished to be called David by his intimate circle it becomes clear where the primacy according to him was in the newly established order. When Charlemagne presided over Church councils he did just that what the Byzantine Emperor did. When Pepin the Short's brother Carloman relinquished his part of the empire for a spiritual function, both most likely assumed had chosen the most powerful part. 


We greatly suspect that when Charles Martel subdued the Moores in the Southern of France that he made a pact with them with the clear task of the Moores (or offer to them so to speak) to keep the Byzantium empire at bay. In fact the Moors would take over many features of the Byzantine empire in the coming centuries as long as they kept Western Europe isolated to enable it to put forth is own Novus Ordo.




There exists an interesting discovery when Napoleon seized the Pope in the 19th century. When he took with him the Papal Chair which had been in Rome since the time of Charlemagne and allegedly was the Chair where St. Peter had sat upon, he discovered that the chair contained an inscription referring to 'Allah' and it is indeed not impossible that Charles Martel obtained the chair when he subdued the Moors. 


The name Orsini comes from Bear and the Bear has been linked with Charles Martel and the Pepins through the legend of Charles Martel killing a bear in his youth. The Pepins from that time took the attributes of the Bear. The name 'Ors' could also be rearranged to Rose another attribute in the heraldry of the Orsini.

The Orsini who were Bobone in older days hence are closely linked to the Pepins and most likely to Carloman. It is clear that without a Roman dynasty which linked to the Frankish Pepins Western civilization would not have developed the way it did. 

The first Stephen elected bishop of Rome died before being installed. The second Stephen (Bobone Orsini) until Adrian I had one clear vision, with the help of the Frankish Pepins to throw of the yoke of the Byzantine Emperor and the Exarchs in Ravenna. 

Two Pillars

Two Pillars

There were two factors which helped Charles Martel, who himself was not a legitimate son of Pepin of Herstal. Because Pepin's son died shortly before he died himself, he did not leave a legitimate heir and his grandson was too young still. The Moors from Spain tried to take advantage of the power vacuum and Charles Martel swiftly defended the Western part of the Empire. When he was afterwards requested to come to Byzantium though he did not follow the call of the Emperor. Charles Martel though did never become a king himself, but as Majordomo acted as such when he divided up the kingdom after his death in two parts for his sons Carloman and Pepin to become Majordomo for Austrasia and Neustria. 

These two sons effectively laid down the distribution of spiritual and worldly powers, which became the pillars for the Western Roman Catholic empire. Most of their lives the two sons worked together effectively and as such we only can assume that there is more to Carloman becoming a monk at Monte Cassino and leaving the Frankish empire to be unified by Pepin. Carloman was instrumental in subduing the Lombards in Northern Italy, who remained faithful to the Byzantine Empire and its Patriarch in Ravenna.


Hence both had to be eliminated and hence it was Carloman who factually established the area from Ravenna to Naples with Rome at its centre as domain in which the Roman Catholic Church could be established. As such Carloman left the Frankish empire to be unified by Pepin and received back the 'donation of Pepin', later fraudulently called the 'donation of Constantin'. 


In doing so a centuries long struggle was initiated as to who was the real power in the Catholic Empire, the worldly power or the spiritual one. Emperor or Pope. But neither was still there in the modern sense and although 'Pope' Gregor is regarded as the transition pope between the Byzantine empire and the new Frankish empire of course Gregor could not have been pope in the sense that later Roman Catholic Popes were. But since the whole process was initiated by Charles Martel we have to assume that the Pepin family very well knew what they were doing. 

Which leaves an interesting figure in between 'pope' Gregor and Pope Stephen. 'Pope' Zacharias after all was a Greek.


There exists an interesting legend:

"Ethelbert, King of Mercia and general monarch, sent to Charles Martel, the Right Worshipful Grand Master of France (father of King Pepin), who had been educated by Nimus Graecus, he sent over from France (about A.D. 710) some expert Masons to teach the Saxons those laws and usages of the ancient fraternity, that had been happily preserved from the havoc of the Goths"


According to Pritchard "one Carolus Marcil in France, was taught the art of Masonry by Mannon Grecus".

Was then the predecessor of Stephen then perhaps Mannon Graecus? In that case the real first pope was Stephen and he was only later associated to be of the Bobone family, which later became the Orsini family. Bobone and Pepin is not a far stretch and neither is Pepin and Stephen. In that case it was his own brother Carloman who anointed Pepin the Short as king of France. 


It may very well be that at the end of their lives the classic struggle between Pope and King set in and Pepin imprisoned his brother in Vienna, who still honours the fact in the Vienna Cathedral St. Stephen.  

And so Stephen (Carloman) became the first Martyr of the newly established Roman Catholic Church.

Romus and Romulus

According to its myth Rome had twin founders Romus and Romulus. Rome existed as a twin city. Only later Romulus was regarded as its sole founder reflecting a more closed view at a later stage. 


Byzantium in fact was also called Roma Nova, which is reflected in the area West of the Black Sea called Romania with a European Latin language. The gypsies also are more commonly named 'Romae'. Rome existed as a twin city Old and New Rome, which was Old Rome and Byzantium.  Old Rome was the discarded and unfinished first Roman empire.

Romus and Romulus were, according to the myth, of Trojan descent and it will be of no surprise that also Charlemagne had a Trojan descent through Pepin of Landen's descent from Hector. A descent from the Northern Region of the Black Sea, with its capital Odessa with a Sarmarian form of Judaism.

If the future political ambitions of the Pepins were ever to become a reality then the bond between the Franks and the Emperor in Byzantium formed a problem. The Arian faith of the empire was Jewish Christian being tolerant of individual creeds, even Trinitarian ones. But gradually the Jewish nobility had deviated towards the leading positions in a thoroughly feudal system. The Merovingian kings were a reflexion of that situation. 

The Pepins gradually ran into problems with the centre of the Empire in Byzantium even to such an extent that they were excommunicated. The only solution was a revival of old Rome, but Ravenna and the loyal Lombardi constituted a problem. 

Charles Martel divides up the Frankish kingdom in three parts where each of his sons, Carloman, Pepin (the Short) and Grifo will act as Mayor Domo in their part. 

The names of the Pepin Mayors are sort of a mystery. Of course even the Kings in those days did not have any family names yet. Apparently blood and family was not institutionalised in those days. 

Charlemagne really is a title not a name, it was 'the great man' and Carloman was 'the (male) son of man'. Hence apart from Pepin there was very little to go for regarding their names.


Since Byzantium was not standing by idly they were in need of a supernatural form of authority. Carloman will found a base on Monte Cassino, a monastery functioning as a army very Templar like, and carves out the basis for the future of the Pepins, whilst paving the way for a unified Frankish kingdom under Pepin the Short. 

Most genealogies make of Pope Stephan II an Orsini. But the Orsinis in Rome rose to prominence only after the year 1000 and they very well may have been Pepins originally or Bobone for that matter, the Bobone-Orsini family. Most likely, since a Papacy was needed in a resurrected Rome it was Carloman himself taking up that role and hence Pepin the Short was anointed by his own brother.


Byzantium and those forces in Europe loyal to that order, would not stand by idle and hence the conditions were sown for a long period of European wars, which only are attempted to be consolidated in our days. 

St. Denis

St. Denis

The world Charlemagne grew up in was staunchly Arian. Of course the last is only how we look at it through the glass of a thoroughly Roman Catholic tinted look at civilization. But in those days not Arianism was the unorthodox stand. After all Arians only believed that through the obedience of one man the way was opened to be reconciled and adopted by God. Moreover in the Byzantine church this final split between Jew and Gentile had not happened yet. In fact the Imperial church of Byzantium was by and large tolerant. 

But through the several generations the function of the 'mayordomo' to the Frankish Merovingian kings was passed on to the Pepins of Charlemagne's family in this family a new concept must have taken form. An idea that a new direction was needed. A novus ordo so to speak. For the time being this novus ordo could only look at the West in isolation from the rest of the world.

That would not be easy, because something entirely new had to be created. 

But even Rome in those days hardly had the grandeur later assigned to it. Rome was a backwater in those days. Must have been. Because the patriarchate of the West in name of the Byzantine emperor was still located in Ravenna, besides Jerusalem, Antioch and   Alexandria.

As 'mayordomo' to the Frankish Merovingian kings the Pepin family had its own palace in St. Denis near Paris. Through the generations of Pepins a bold idea took shape. The fraud of the donation of Constantine - a gift of Emperor Constantine to the Roman bishop - was largely constructed here. Within this context you may ask whether the Papacy created Charlemagne or if the Pepin family created the Papacy. 

The word catholic was not new. But it was assigned to the world at large and not to Rome as such. Again Rome was only a backwater and certainly not the focus of Christian life. Rome's cult was Eros not Charity.

The Pepin family created Roman Catholicism and because of that run into severe problems with the Byzantine Emperor. Of course within that context dogmas, which were not accepted at face value in the Imperial world, became very important to the Roman branch of Christianity. 

Amongst those was the idea that their Jesus had to be God. Historically speaking it is not far fetched to say that the idea of Jesus being 'God' (Dionysus) was formalized as institutional reality in St. Denis. 

The silver coin of Charlemagne

There you have it for starters. Charlemagne allegedly set up a system where silver coins formed the foundation for the money system. 

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  The currency of ancient Rome always carried an image of the emperor. This was to show that the coinage could be used for exchanges and to pay the taxes of the Roman Empire. The Romans’ complex administrative structure and coinage disappeared when the empire collapsed, however. 
  
  In Merovingian kingdoms, a sophisticated taxation structure had not developed, so the currency did not always carry a picture of the king. Charlemagne attempted to regularize the currency during his reign, although he never achieved regular taxation of the kingdom.
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   http://www.departments.bucknell.edu/history/carnegie/charlemagne/didyouknow.html
  
  
  
  How much effort is displayed here to the effect that Charlemagne was a sovereign Emperor? And how much effort is displayed in ignoring the fact that there was also an Emperor in Byzantium!  
  
  
  A clear sign of sovereignty is gold coinage and in the West gold coinage was for the first time minted in the 12th century in England and used exactly for the purpose of declaring sovereignty. Gold coins used in the west until then were Gold coins minted in Byzantium. The reason Charlemagne did not wish to mint gold coinage was not that he preferred silver, but there was no jurisdiction for it; 
  
  
  

  Charlemagne lacked sufficient sovereignty 

  to be able to mint gold coins!
  
  
  The issue of Charlemagne not being able to mint gold is a clear sign for the superior position of Byzantium at that time and that the crowning of Charlemagne was only a first step in the development of sovereignty in the West.
  
  
  

We start with a blank sheet and some assumptions

Starting with a globe and a number of assumptions we have come to realise once you start refurbishing a room, you can better do a whole new design, since you cannot renew only one aspect of the room. It simply won't fit. Or the rest of the room will look terribly out of place. 

And so it is with history. We have worked for 100s of years to get solid picture of the history of our civilization. Once you start taking one piece out, for example the Middle Ages, what comes after and what came before is affected by it too.

And yet that piece, the Middle Ages, has been a thorn in my eye for a very long time. It just didn't make sense the stories of barbarians in the beginning of this period, trespassing the boundaries of our modern welfare state and settling there to begin what was to become to glorious history of my beautiful country all out of nothing.

On the other end of the scale I was so very impressed with the final bold attempt of someone like Anatoly Fumenko to question it all. That is all the evidence of our established history from scientific, mathematical, astrological and documentary point of view. But as good a job as Fumenko did deconstructing the reliability of our history as poor a job he did in reconstructing it. After questioning it all, all that remained were questions.

Hence there is no claim that any attempts on these pages to retrieve a reliable factual tale of the history of our civilization is going to succeed. It does not seem possible, because there is no documentary evidence whatsoever. This blog is just a journey with the pieces of cloth left to try to make a sensible redesign based on the idea that the real facts are available even if the direction of our understanding of them is misguided.

So here we have our first axiom!

If elements of history are misguided and deliberately misrepresented, when understanding the motivation if this, it is possible to retrieve to real state of affairs.

If you don't like it. Well, that is no problem. There is no need to tell us. If you do like it and actually have some desire to tell us that a piece of cloth we put somewhere, actually would in a sensible way better look somewhere else, please do tell us. If you just want to follow the path we have undertaken on this blog and feel inspired by the mere thought of the possibilities, then 'great!' stay with us!